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FACT CHECK: Actually Muslims Did Celebrate 9-11, According To NY Times

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Trump Joins Ridgewood blog and Asks for an Apology NOW!

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop owes an apology to all 9/11 victims and should resign immediately!
https://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/-jersey-city-mayor-steven-fulop-should-apologize-to-911-vict

NOVEMBER 24, 2015 BY CHARLES C. JOHNSON

Ben Carson and Donald Trump are under fire for comments that they saw Muslims celebrating 9-11.

The Washington Post’s fact checker claimed it never happened to which Donald Trump replied thusly:

Via @washingtonpost 9/18/01. I want an apology! Many people have tweeted that I am right! https://wapo.st/1R1siFz

The New York Times quotation is far more damning. Here it is, with our emphasis.

Within hours of the terror attacks, F.B.I. agents hurriedly intercepted telephone calls in which suspected associates of Al Qaeda in the United Stateswere overheard celebrating the attacks. In the following days, agents swept in and arrested them. (New York Times, October 28, 2001, Section 1B; Column 1; Metropolitan Desk; Pg. 2).

The Washington Post–the very same paper denying that anyone was celebrating the attacks–reported on September 16, 2011 that Palestinian authorities and the media were working together to stop people from seeing Palestinians celebrating the terrorist attacks. Here’s the relevant quote:

Palestinian officials have told local representatives of foreign news agencies and television stations on several occasions that their employees’ safety could be jeopardized if videotapes showing Palestinianscelebrating the attacks were aired.

https://gotnews.com/fact-check-muslims-did-celebrate-9-11-according-to-the-ny-times/

20 thoughts on “FACT CHECK: Actually Muslims Did Celebrate 9-11, According To NY Times

  1. Lets go to the videotape of the “thousands and thousands” of people celebrating. Surely someone has it. If Trump saw it on tv then it is in the archives.

    People tweeting that they saw it too is not proof of anything. They must have all been watching the same news show. What show was it? Lets get the tape and settle this once and for all.

  2. yeah, yeah… lets see the proof.
    … and BTW,don’t forget to say “Happy Holidays”

  3. Happy Holidays

    Let’s see the proof.

  4. Yes they did…we all saw the same clips of these folks from Paterson jumping up and down….

  5. So, everyone who saw the thousands of people celebrating in NJ – please figure out what channel you were all watching and get the video. Talk is cheap and you know that no one can fact check a collective memore.

    Ben Carson admitted that he saw the West Bank celebrations. Time for the rest of you to think about your recovered memoey. The New York Times and other news organizations were unable to substantiate these claims. Prove them wrong!

    1. everyone saw it ,these denials are silly, the only thing more disingenuous is the NY Times and Washington Post first not fact checking then denying there own stories.

      https://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/-jersey-city-mayor-steven-fulop-should-apologize-to-911-vict

  6. James, here are some of Trump’s specific claims on this issue:

    “And I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. Thousands of people were cheering.”

    “It was on television. I saw it.”

    Is it true that “thousands and thousands” of people were cheering? Please provide corroborating evidence.

    Is it true that “it was on television”? Please provide corroborating evidence.

    1. anyone who was there saw it, CBS news at the time carried footage

  7. Did the mainstream media put this much effort into challenging the statement made by Hillary in her tales of coming under sniper fire in Bosnia? At least there are elements of truth and doubt with Trump’s recollection whereas with Hillary, is was up there with Brian Williams in terms of pure fabrication. She came back with a “mis-spoke” response and we all just left it alone.

  8. Food for thought American Muslims celebrating 9/11 https://youtu.be/W5BtQgTGOI4

  9. James, could you please provide a link to the CBS video or other reports of such a video? (I was in NJ on 9/11, so I am part of “anyone”, so I “was there”, but I am not one who “saw it”.)

    1. where you in Jersey city, Hoboken or the financial district NYC , that is being there

  10. Declan, if Trump just said “I mis-spoke”, I hope everyone would just drop the issue. But he hasn’t! He has said that written reports of a few tens of people possibly seen briefly celebrating in Paterson or Jersey City validates his claim that he saw video of thousands and thousands celebrating.

    Did some Muslims in NJ celebrate after 9/11? Almost certainly! And there is evidence to prove that some did in NJ. That’s not surprising give what we know about extremist Muslims and those that sympathize with terrorists.

    Did thousands and thousands celebrate, and was that celebration captured on video? No one, including Trump, has provided video or equivalent corroborating evidence of such celebration.

    Why does this matter? If only tens of people would celebrate terrorism, the number of extremist sympathizers and potential terrorists might be relatively limited. If thousands and thousands would celebrate terrorism, then the number of extremist sympathizers and potential terrorists would be gigantic.

    Such facts matter. They have impact on how we should investigate and stop potential terrorism. They impact what our priorities should be and how much risk exists.

    I believe that Carson has said he mis-spoke in saying he saw the same thing. He said he was instead remembering videos of celebrations in the Middle East. If Trump said the same thing, there wouldn’t be an issue.

  11. Nope, I was not in any those towns. (I thought you meant anyone in NJ would have seen the local news video coverage, not that you meant someone in those towns would have seen celebrations first hand.)

    You didn’t answer my question: could you please show me evidence of cbs video or at least a write up of such a video?

    1. I under stand your skepticism, given the media is so unreliable and basically dishonest ,you could see( that’s see with my own eyes) pockets of people celebrating from the Heights in Jersey City , one of my coworkers said that there was a significant contingent in downtown Brooklyn also , maybe not thousands but a hundred for sure , as for Paterson , the state police blocked off access to the area for a few days . Trump may have exaggerated, like Hillary was “dead broke ” , but to deny the celebrations is a disservice to all the victims of the 9/11 . It time to stop the PC BS and deal with the enemy as they are as for video I am sure it will surface when its convenient.

  12. James, thank you for admitting that Trump likely exaggerated his claims. Hillary and others have certainly done the same in the past, and I’m sure they will in the future. Since you seem to think it’s okay for Trump to exaggerate in order to make a point, I presume you’ll be consistent and avoid being hypocritical the next time a politician exaggerates in order to make a point, whether you agree with that point or not?

    1. as long as you do lol

  13. James, the footage was of people in Palestine celebrating. I remember it clearly. There is no footage of throngs of people in Paterson, JC or anywhere else in New Jersey celebrating on 9/11.

    1. Thousands of people saw it with there own eyes , I did not see anything on TV , I was there get it !!!!to deny the celebrations is a disservice to all the victims of the 9/11 .

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