By Mark Mueller | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
on December 21, 2015 at 6:00 AM, updated December 21, 2015 at 7:33 AM
In the weeks since Donald Trump ignited a firestorm by claiming “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in Jersey City cheered the fall of the twin towers on 9/11, elected officials, religious leaders and a former state attorney general denied the existence of celebrations in the city that day.
Media outlets, after scouring archived news stories and video footage, could not find verified accounts of Jersey City Muslims rejoicing.
In the weeks since Donald Trump ignited a firestorm by claiming “thousands and thousands” of Muslims in Jersey City cheered the fall of the twin towers on 9/11, elected officials, religious leaders and a former state attorney general denied the existence of celebrations in the city that day.
Media outlets, after scouring archived news stories and video footage, could not find verified accounts of Jersey City Muslims rejoicing.
But in a new examination by NJ Advance Media, a police officer who worked on 9/11 and residents on the outskirts of Journal Square say they witnessed small pockets of people celebrating before the groups dispersed or were broken up by authorities.
The NJ Advance Media inquiry, encompassing more than two dozen interviews conducted since Nov. 25, found Trump’s broad assertion that thousands of people cheered to be baseless. At the same time, the inquiry provides the first credible indication of at least two modest celebrations, as described by on-the-record sources who say they witnessed the behavior.
“When I saw they were happy, I was pissed,” said Ron Knight, 56, a Tonnele Avenue resident who said he heard cries of “Allahu Akbar” as he shouldered his way through a crowd of 15 to 20 people on John F. Kennedy Boulevard that morning.
Collectively, the gatherings amounted to dozens of people at the two locations, the witnesses said. Callers also flooded the 911 system with accounts of jubilant Muslims on a rooftop at a third location, three police officers said, but a reporter was unable to find witnesses there 14 years later.
Get over it. It didn’t happen. I was working in an office downtown that day, and the Muslims in my office were as horrified as everyone else. Even more so, because they knew what this would mean for them in the future.
nice try denile is more than than a river in egypt
Hah! 9:55am, you are either deluded yourself or are trying, taqqiya-style, to delude others. Save your breath–the cat you refer to is permanently out of the bag. The Muslim “faith” has been outed as a facade for a nihilist ideology bent on conquering every square inch of Terra firma. Time for a constitutional amendment denying constitutional or statutory protections to any person or group whose “religion” requires apostates to be hunted down and killed. It goes without saying that adherents of Islam are not going to be allowed to line up at the Affirmative Action trough either. We need to get serious about protecting ourselves and our way of life. Islam has Christanity squarely in its crosshairs and we need to respond aporopriately, ISIS recruiting videos or no ISIS recruiting videos!
Wow, 10:40. What’s it like to be so scared and ignorant at the same time? You are willing to jettison the First Amendment of the Constitution? You want to “protect our way of life” by rendering it unrecognizable?
Forget that you seem to know very little about Islam…it would appear you know even less about The United States of America.
10:40am you have totally lost your mind or are living in a drug induced universe.
Wow, 09:55, your evidence is thoroughly compelling. To hear that some corporate Muslims in your office didn’t celebrate is enough to convince me.
Educate us, 12:39pm, as to where 10:40 went wrong or is misinformed. We’re all ears. Stop criticizing others and dazzle us with your rare brilliance. And while you’re at it, explain the account given this morning by the Jersey City cop who personally barged into and broke up a rooftop celebration party attended by dozens of Muslims on 9/11.
12:39pm, will you need to personally witness an atrocity like the following, or be an injured victim as a result of same, in order to take these risks seriously?:
A woman in a car with its windows down screamed “Allahu Akbar” as she ran up onto the sidewalk and ran-over upwards of 40 people in Las Vegas last night.
According to one eye witness “As we were walking accross the street, this car comes flying through the red light. She ran up on the sidewalk and smashed into a group of people walking accross the street and into the group of people at the corner. She did not slow down and appeared to accelerate as she hit the sidewalk.”
According to that witness. there is a huge row of plants and bushes seperating the sidewalk and the strip, but the woman driver ran through both, at a speed he guessed to be 40-45 miles per hour. “People were flying off the front of her car and people were smashing into other people as she plowed through the crowd.”
The witness went on to say “As this unfolded, the only thing I recall as this happened is the insane sound of her car accelerating and the voice from the car was screaming “Allah Akbar!” I’ve heard the sound enough times on the news that I was waiting for a bomb to blow up or guns to start firing. ”
According to Police, 37 people were hit and one person was killed. Six of the victims were listed in Critical Condition but they have since been upgraded to stable.
The crash occurred about 6:40 PM local time in front of the Paris Hotel & Casino, and Planet Hollywood. Police are quite explicit in saying the crash was intentional.
This was an act of Islamic Terrorism, perpetrated by an Islamic woman driving a car with a three year old child inside, who INTENTIONALLY rode onto the sidewalk to strike innocent people. Police, however, have been instructed by their superiors to NOT use the word “terrorism” in relation to this incident, because Las Vegas does not want tourists to be frightened away from the city.
She must have been radicalized as a result of Donald Trump’s eminently logical, reasonable, and appropriate observations regarding the presence of radical islamists in the U.S. and the need for the U.S. to avoid adding to their number.
I have manny friends in up in canada , and they said the same thing, that some were happy what they seen. not all are radical,s just some are brain wash’ed one’s.
I saw I too…however I don’t recall if it was Paterson or Jersey City…I absolutely saw it.
I did, too. It was on one of the local TV news programs. No, it wasn’t thousands, and no, it wasn’t the street celebrations in Palestine. If I recall correctly, it was a bunch of guys sat on roof-tops, in Jersey City or Paterson.
359, her name is Lakeisha Holloway… doesn’t sound Islamic to me… sounds like a single mother loser… where did you get your facts, the world net daily? She’s about Islamic as Donald Trump. I worry less about radical Muslims than these loser parasites that we support via our tax dollars…
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Those Opposing Trump’s Muslim Ban are “Dhimmi”
Although this journalist has not been a fan of Donald Trump, the man’s latest idea of barring the entry of Muslims into America hit a bull’s eye. The hysterical reaction by Americans of many stripes is evidence of that, but also of a terrifying reality: the growing triumph of dhimmitude in the United States.
This word was invented by scholar Bat Ye’or, a European Jew born and raised in Egypt who now lives in Switzerland and is an expert on Islam’s history of governing non-Muslims, Jews and Christians in particular.
The Arabic word dhimma means “protected” and refers to the status of a non-Muslim community living under Muslim rule. Muslims commonly brag that they have been good to the minorities whom they “protected,” but never mentioned is why they needed protection and from whom. The answer is from ordinary Muslims with no inhibitions about abusing the dhimmi, the ‘‘protected” people, such as throwing stones at them in the street for fun, stealing from them, molesting their daughters and wives, etc. Think of the life of Negroes in the Deep South in the ugly heyday of “Jim Crow” when white trash called every Negro man “boy.”
Muslim governments “protected” their Jews because, unlike their own Believers who were largely illiterate, they provided services that the regime could not do without. They could keep records, manage commerce, speak foreign languages. They were protected lest the abuse became too oppressive and the community fled. For example, in 1679 in Yemen, the entire Jewish population was expelled into the desert to die, during which their immovable property was looted, but when it became clear the regime could not function without them, they were invited back.
As per sharia law, the Jews as dhimmi were allowed to practice their religion but only by paying a huge, communal tax each year called the jizya. Commonly, the chief rabbi would deliver the cash to the local pasha who took the coins and, in these very public ceremonies, ritually slapped him in the face as a concrete manifestation of the Koranic commandment to “oppress and humiliate” the dhimmi and punish them for refusing to convert to Islam. For fourteen centuries, on a daily basis, Jews in Islam were abused like this.
Scholar Bat Ye’or in her work not only studied the history of dhimmi life but observed how Europeans in our time have changed in reaction to the massive influx of Muslims who clearly do not come to Europe to become Europeans but only to enjoy a higher standard of living. The goal of these immigrants is not to assimilate into European culture but have Europeans adopt theirs.
Dhimmitude, she said, was taking root in Europe as Europeans began to retreat and kowtow to Muslim demands. Europeans have been gradually morphing into a simulacrum of medieval Jews and Christians under Islam when non-Believers kept their heads down and bowed to the superiority of the One True Faith.
And now the hysterical response to Donald Trump’s reasonable suggestion is evidence that the process is well advanced in America too. All Trump did was reference World War II when there were no tourists, businessmen or students entering the United States from Germany, Italy and Japan, let alone be given Green Cards as Muslims are today, whose ideology/religion is no less violently totalitarian than Nazism and Fascism. Trump merely raised the comparison between World War II and the present crisis, but across-the-board Americans shuddered at his “bigoted” idea.
This is dhimmitude. Dhimmis are not allowed to be negative about Islam. His critics left and right also surely know, at some level of consciousness, that to criticize Islam is to make of oneself a target for Muslims who will license themselves to kill the critic, as the staffers at Charlie Hebdo in Paris found out.
In Holland, Geert Wilders is a “prisoner” of his bodyguards. Likewise in the States, the lives of two American heroes, Pamela Geller and her partner Robert Spencer, are similarly constricted, and who wants to live like that?
It is indicative of dhimmitude that not even one major pundit or politician has remembered the famous American history of the Mormons who began life as polygamists and for this were driven, sometimes violently, from town-to-town in the East until they fled into the wilderness of the West. Next to the Great Salt Lake their community flourished, and when their numbers reached the requirement for statehood, they applied but were rejected by Congress for being polygamists, when that behavior was illegal in every state and still is.
Over the next Biblical generation of forty years, the Mormons repeatedly applied for statehood and were rejected every time until 1890 when they revamped their doctrine, outlawed polygamy, and entered the Union in 1896.
On similar, legal grounds, Islam must be declared illegal in the United States, and all of its mosques padlocked by court order. Polygamy is a root cause of many of Islam’s social pathologies. It is organically connected to their abuse of women, cruel violence, inbreeding, rampant male-to-male sodomy and the fathering of too many children for their economies to support.
Thus, the truly shocking aspect of Trump’s analogy was not the idea of barring Muslims but the cowardly response by Americans of not only Democrats but many Republicans and Conservatives who apparently have become obedient dhimmito the politically correct cliché that all religions are of equal worth.
No, they are not. Judeo-Christian civilization is superior to that of Islam. There are fifty-six officially Muslim states and not one is a liberal democracy that Americans would want to live in.
Europe is now committing suicide by letting Islam grow inside of it, and what has happened there is happening in the U.S. Obama promised a “fundamental change” and this it: the Islamization of the United States. In his time in office, he has allowed into the country 680,000 Muslims and repeatedly refused to say anything negative about this culture that is so alien to Judeo-Christian America.
Dhimmitude is a failure of nerve and loss of pride in one’s own life of the mind, religion, society and civilization.
By Sha’i ben-Tekoa
Sha’i ben-Tekoa’s PHANTOM NATION: Inventing the “Palestinians” as the Obstacle to Peace is available at Amazon.com and http://www.deprogramprogram.com.
12:39pm, if you yourself would claim to be reasonably well-informed about Islam, nothing the author of the above article had to say about it would be new to you. So, what is it? Are you well-informed about Islam, or are you not?
Just an observation, but considering all the Muslims in the world, you would have thought that more than a few would have been a little more “pro-active,” if you will, in convincing/condemning the actions of their radical fringes, which, by the way, have been around for a hell of a long time, BEFORE they committed these atrocities. Their silence over the years has been deafening.
Now you know why Mr. Trump makes sense to a lot of people.