Reader says Zero effect? Obviously you people drank the Kool-Aid! Must be Megan…
Several years ago my husband went to the Village Hall to obtain a list of calls from Valley Hospital to the police in that year. There were something like 250 calls, at least, yet Valley has never paid one cent to the Policeman’s Benevolent Fund…
I saw the need for extra police during Valley’s last construction, right out my window! Our streets were too narrow to handle the huge trucks, and they still are. Police had to be called to direct the traffic on more days than I can count. Zero effect? What are you, blind?
Trying to stir the pot again?
In the interest of accuracy, do tell us what a contribution to the non-profit PBA charity has to do with handling calls for service to Valley, which are covered by the village budget.
You husband should have also asked how many times Police were called to direct traffic at funerals at churches and other non-profits etc.
And since you’re looking right out your window at Valley (you made the choice to live there next to a pre-existing non-conforming structure) you would know that police working on construction sites are paid by the contractor.
So being blind to purchasing next to valley is something you are quite apparently guilty of.
Since when is a labor union considered a charity? Giving money to the PBA is like giving money to the Teamsters.
I’m not Megan.
I don’t drink cool aid.
I’m not blind: So I don’t buy houses next to train tracks, schools, commercial buildings, highways, or hospitals then bitch about the location.
I’m not either one of you, not Megan,don’t drink cool aid, not blind, did not buy a house next to train tracks, etc. But, assuming you have more than an 8th grade education, even you should be able to figure out that, as proposed, the building will be too big for the site it is currently on. Pretty simple.
Anonymous said…….. as proposed, the building will be too big for the site it is currently on. Pretty simple.
Based on what exactly, your opinion? Sorry I don’t give a damn about your opinion. However if you want to back up your statement with facts, and please don’t give me any of the BS about the children in your reply, I am willing to listen.
It would take more than a typical bachelors degree to determine if the site is suitable or not. Study and experience in land use, public safety and civil engineering are more appropriate than self-centeredness, fear and emotion.
Yes, my opinion as opposed to the “experts” Valley has put forth. Being that I am a resident I think I’m entitled to that. By the way, an advanced degree or not, this is all about “opinions.” Just what facts can you add to this dialogue because so far you really have not provided any.
#7 said Yes, my opinion as opposed to the “experts” ………
Just as I suspected, an empty barrel, lots of noise no contents.
Fact: Valley wants to almost double the size of its existing structure in a residential neighborhood.
If you care to discuss that would be great. But this time, please include some facts of your own. Not surprising that you came up short there because the supporters of this joke, few as they are, have not come up with one reason why this would benefit the majority of residents ( and do I dare say, including “the children”) residing in Ridgewood. Gee, another fact !
If you have just one, please let us all in on it.
Fact: Valley Hospital exists in a residential neighborhood and has for over 50 years.
Fact: Hospitals, Nationwide, have improved their facilities over the years, and will always need to improve to provide the latest and best medical care possible to save lives.
Fact: Unless you bought your home in the early 1950s, which is very unlikely, you bought your home knowing that a Hospital existed near your home.
Fact: You should have known that Hospitals are regularly making improvements to their facilities when you bought your home. If you didn’t know this, why didn’t you know this?
These are facts, any questions?
how about the FACT that its too big for the current space …any thoughts ?
Since we already know what it is, and what Valley’s dream is for it to become, the “questions” have already been answered. But what happened to the rest of your answer, you know, the one where a supporter gives a reason where this benefits the majority of residents ?
And please, try and understand the difference between “making improvements,” which they have done a few times over the past 50 yrs., and a 6-10 year EXPANSION that will double the size. In other words, you can improve the facility without going nuts.
By the way, why do you think I live near Valley ? Before you give your answer regarding the benefits, you might want to revisit that assumption.
How about the fact that there will be at least (probably more) 6 years of non-stop construction, truck traffic, debris hauling and dust. This will effect more than just those who live adjacent to Valley. It will effect anyone traveling down Linwood to get to Rt 17.
How about the fact that the Village residents will have to pay for the extra police work.
How about the fact that Valley pays nothing taxes.
How about the fact the majority of residents are opposed to the construction!
I don’t mind living near the hospital and I’m getting tired of hearing about how “stupid” I was for buying the house that I love. Was it stupid of me to trust in our local government and the Master Plan? If “yes”is the answer to that question, then we’re all in trouble.
I accept that hospitals must modernize.
I also believe that enough is enough; too much is too much. Valley’s bid to double in size on a miniscule 15 acres is completely inappropriate and does not constitute mere “improvements”.
If Valley’s aim was to be a major regional medical center, it should have moved a long time ago, when it had the chance.
how about the FACT that its too big for the current space …any thoughts ?
The World Trade Center before the 9/11 attacks had a total of seven buildings, the most notable were the main two towers. Each Tower stood over 1,350 feet (410 m) high, and occupied about one acre (43,560 square feet) of the total 16 acre site. Altogether the entire complex of seven buildings had 11,200,000 square feet (1,040,000 m2) of office space on 16 acres.
Would this amount of construction be appropriate at the Linwood Ave site. No, since the height of those buildings would surely be out of place in Ridgewood. But to say Valley is too big for their site is just your opinion. Land use laws and the rule of law should determine what is appropriate for the site not opinions.
By the way, why do you think I live near Valley ?
If you live in Ridgewood, using the radical view of the Stop Valley group, no matter where you live you will be impacted by the Valley proposal. I actually disagree with this view, but they keep repeating it.
How about the fact that the Village residents will have to pay for the extra police work.
The Village has paid for this work for years, why is this an issue now? Why haven’t you complained about this the minute you learned about it?
How about the fact that Valley pays nothing taxes.
Again, Valley has not paid taxes for years so why is this an issue now? Why haven’t you complained about this the minute you learned about it? And what does this have to do with construction
How about the fact the majority of residents are opposed to the construction!
Please provide proof of your claim the majority of residents are opposed to the construction!
you just proved my point Ridgewood is not and will never be New York City
And it sure as hell had plenty of those.
You said, and I quote….”how about the FACT that its too big for the current space …any thoughts ?”
I provided you with an example of a much larger complex on 16 acres as a comparison of what “COULD” be built on 16 acres, not what should be built on 16 acres, to show you that your statement “its too big for the current space” is false!
Now if you said “how about the FACT that its too big for the site based on land use laws and the surrounding community and the character of the Village. That may have been a reasonable statement.
You have yet to provide any substantial evidence to support your claim that the Valley Proposal is too big for their site. If all you have is your opinion then you have nothing, because as I stated before, your opinion does not matter!
you just proved my point Ridgewood is not and will never be New York City
Interesting that you chose to ignore everything else I said in response to your other statements……
By the way, why do you think I live near Valley ?
If you live in Ridgewood, using the radical view of the Stop Valley group, no matter where you live you will be impacted by the Valley proposal. I actually disagree with this view, but they keep repeating it.
How about the fact that the Village residents will have to pay for the extra police work.
The Village has paid for this work for years, why is this an issue now? Why haven’t you complained about this the minute you learned about it?
How about the fact that Valley pays nothing taxes.
Again, Valley has not paid taxes for years so why is this an issue now? Why haven’t you complained about this the minute you learned about it? And what does this have to do with construction
How about the fact the majority of residents are opposed to the construction!
Please provide proof of your claim the majority of residents are opposed to the construction!
Before you start relating anything to the WTC, you just might want to take a look at why Princeton told that hospital to forget about their expansion. Smart move, downtown Princeton never looked better.
“Radical view?” The only view that’s radical is Valley’s. The spin has not worked. Once again,how do we benefit ?
Do you think this thing will actually decrease the number of cops needed ? Do you think the infrastructure won’t take a hit with all the trucks hauling whatever ? Did Valley pay anything in taxes the last few times they “renovated ?” Nope, but we did.
Since any credibility you had is just about shot, you might want to address the benefit(s) part you keep avoiding.
Well Ridgewood is certainly not an island, but the traffic has definitely picked up. I’m sure though that during and after construction everything will be just fine. In fact, maybe they should do away with that other “island” they want to put in; you know, the one at the corner of Linwood and Van Dien that you might have to use to survive, even though there won’t be as many cars coming at you from every which way. (I’m sorry, that’s just an opinion from guess who, a “paid Valley expert.”)
Not a fact, an opinion.
#21 said….Since any credibility you had is just about shot, Really! My creditability? I am not making claims I can’t back up with facts, but you surely are, for example….
#1. You said Valley was “too big for the current space” and I gave an example (The World Trade Center) of a much larger building complex than is even being proposed by Valley, which COULD be built at the Valley site. I did NOT say that it should, but it could proving your statement wrong.
#2. You stated “How about the fact that the Village residents will have to pay for the extra police work.” Again you failed to acknowledge this has been going on for years? This is what they call faux argument because this has nothing to do with the buildings that would be built. And if additional Police were necessary due to the construction traffic at Valley Hospital the Hospital would pay for the Police NOT the residents.
#3You asked, “How about the fact that Valley pays nothing taxes.” We both know Valley has not paid taxes for years! Again no explanation from you what paying taxes has to do with their construction proposal.
And you say my creditability is shot, Yea right!
you just proved my point Ridgewood is not and will never be New York City
Since you have failed to answer the basic question in this exercise regarding the residents of Ridgewood seeing any meaningful benefit to the proposed expansion, and would rather distort others comments to get your point across, your comments have become meaningless.
I would be happy to answer that question (regarding the residents of Ridgewood seeing any meaningful benefit to the proposed expansion). But since you have refused to respond to my questions why on earth should I answer your question?
Gee, are you going to take your ball and go home,too ? If you want to be happier, just tell everyone in Ridgewood who reads this blog what the benefits are for the majority of residents. Obviously, it must be pretty hard to do or you would have come up with at least one by now.
Lets review, you make foolish statements and about the Valley proposal, and when I call you on them you can’t even defend your statements. Then you claim I am distorting your statements, which is false, and now you using a sophomoric saying (take your ball and go home ,too) to try to goat me into answering your question. Really, how stupid is that?
If you want me to answer your question just answer this ONE question. What does Valley paying taxes have to do with ANY construction proposal at Valley Hospital. Let me give you a hint, it has nothing to do with any construction and it is just a Stop Valley talking point to try to get people on the side of the RADICAL Stop Valley. Right or wrong?
What is “stupid” is that I’m even bothering to engage in this conversation. But, unlike you, I’ve been right on the money with my comments, and not the least bit “foolish.” And as for the “sophomoric saying,” well,if I have to explain it you have other issues.
I really don’t care if you answer the question because by doing everything BUT answering (ie.avoid) you have shown that you can’t. Pretty simple to most people.
Part three: once again, wrong. Briefly, I could be way off here, but if any damage is done to the infrastructure during and after construction will Valley get a bill, or real taxpayers ? Fact…the taxpayers.
Oh yeah, the only thing about this whole process that can be called “radical” is “Valley’s proposal. Just an opinion.
Wow, you really think that you have been right on the money with your comments, and not the least bit “foolish.” I couldn’t disagree with you more.
I would love to hear about what damage will be done to the infrastructure during and after construction.
Just ONE Benefit for the residents and the community at large regarding the Valley Construction – Currently Valley has at least 1,000 existing fluorescent lighting systems (T12 lamps with magnetic ballasts) in just one of Valley’s buildings. New construction will use high-efficiency lighting systems (Super T8 lamps with electronic ballasts), which will save 48 million kilowatt-hours of electricity, reducing the power strain on the Public Service grid. This one change will reduce CO2e emissions to just 19,200 metric tons of CO2e emissions per year compared to the current 48 to 60 metric tons of CO2e per year being generated by the Hospital in the current type of lighting design in just one 25,000-square foot Valley Hospital building. This is just one benefit, and the tip of the iceberg.
your kidding right?? lol
LOL, No I am not, clearly this info went right over your head.
Very impressive. So I guess, in some very odd way, we should all be grateful that after 6-10 years of noise, pollution, traffic, etc. that Valley will be using less electricity. Well, I can certainly see the benefit to Valley as their utility bill(s) should be less, at least by your calculations. (Of course, we really don’t know that less power will be used). But, can everyone in Ridgewood expect a decrease in their bills, or just settle for being grateful that Valley is taking less power from the grid, and seeing a reduction on what they spend on their utility bills ?
Like I said, that one example just the tip of the iceberg.
Anybody can estimate, guess, make up numbers, whatever. But I am curious to know how you can actually predict the power needed to run something when you don’t even know, for example, what (new operating equipment) machines will be used ? And getting back to the original point, how does a Ridgewood resident benefit ?
Based on your thought process so far, this is going to be some “iceberg.”
Most intelligent people know a 2014 car will get better gas mileage than a 2003 car of the same make and model. The same holds true for most electronic equipment as technology improves, including medical equipment. Clearly no matter what I bring forth you will dismiss it and continue with your Stop Valley talking points and refuse to acknowledge anything I say as a being beneficial to the residents. This is obviously a waste of my time. Have a nice day