This undated photo provided by the National Security Agency (NSA) shows its headquarters in Fort Meade, Md.
Sen. Rand Paul @SenRandPaul
May 7, 2015
Paul is the junior U.S. Senator for Kentucky.
The sacrifice of our personal liberty for security is and will forever be a false choice
I’ve long said what you discuss on your phone is none of the government’s business, and the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit agrees.
Today, the federal court struck down the government’s sweeping, undefined, and illegal war on civil liberties, ruling that it is unlawful for the National Security Agency to collect the bulk phone records of American citizens.
The three judge panel slams the overreach of the NSA’s limitless metadata collection and privacy intrusion, writing in the opinion that the program was an “unprecedented contraction of the privacy expectations of all Americans.” The court judges the program’s premise as ineffectual, stating “the records demanded are all-encompassing; the government does not even suggest that all of the records sought, or even necessarily any of them, are relevant.”
https://time.com/3851286/nsa-court-decision-rand-paul-patriot-act/
can you say freedom of speech . any one can say any thing they like on line. it does not mean it’s all true. but they can say it. as long as you don’t say you are going to hurt any one. because that can not do. talk is cheep. but you can still say what you like it’s the u s a. end of the story.
So Adbul is getting his bomb-making instructions over his home phone from his Pakistani handler. This is none of the Government’s business. Okay. That’s cool.
The three judge panel slams the overreach of the NSA’s limitless metadata collection and privacy intrusion , under the patriot act the FEDs suspect “Adbul” and have reason to believe he is “getting his bomb-making instructions over his home phone from his Pakistani ” he can still be monitored ….The current ruling concludes that Section 215 of the Patriot Act does not authorize bulk collection of phone records that mean they cant data mine everyone for no reason
Do you really think freedom is speech is absolute? When you say “hurt”, do you mean mentally or physically? You can’t yell fire in a crowded theatre (legit limit) but now if you say anything that may be deemed “offensive”, it’s treated the same way….except for white heterosexual christian bashing, that seems ok to the pc class…pc (lower case intentional) has supplanted free speech to the detriment of everyone… today Piss Christ is okay but Charlie Hebdo cartoons are not…
ok then what can we say. after 9 -11 the hole world changed.
Janes.. that means they may “profile”…. an anathema to those who want to treat Grandma Svensen in Iowa the same as the mentioned “Abdul”…
its called reasonable suspicion ,ie re read Sherlock Holmes ( Deductive reasoning ) , arbitrary strip searching old ladies in airports has proven highly ineffective
James, I used the Abdul example because it was the most extremely obvious one that came to mind. The reality is that such phone calls are not made. Islamic terrorists are far too smart to make such calls and do their communicating through far more difficult to monitor methods. However, there is still open phone communicating done by recruiters and would-be participants. It’s exactly this kind of network-establishing data mining that is essential in combating this. Unfortunately, the pc brigade and a collection of anti-Govt types, not to mention a whole lot of lefty narcissists, are up in arms, believing the Govt have no business listening-in to their private calls. The reality is that the Govt is not listening-in to their private lives. They are tracking potential terrorists. It’s a fine line that we as a society need to accept if we really want to fight this problem.
Sorry for the name typo on the previous post James… but I have seen purple haired grannies interrogated at Newark… meanwhile seeing women in black with a headscarves given a green light… doesn’t make sense… thats not reasonable suspicion…that’s PC crap…
I know that old ladies getting strip searched in airports makes for a powerful statement, but the reality is that it’s not true.
Sorry seen it many times
Declan…saw a granny getting pulled out of line last month… it DOES happen… and i didn’t say strip searched… YOU said that…