Valley conveys a clear message to the Village of Ridgewood ” they want what they want
feel that the lawsuit of Valley conveys a clear message to the Village of Ridgewood ” they want what they want” and will use their power and money to get it. The residents of this town have been go to meetings and spending their valuable time and money for 8 years.
Valley has presented their plans twice to the Village and they were both rejected. The process was followed and people presented their views for 8 years about how they have felt about this expansion. It has been 8 years of peoples time!! Enough is enough. Valley has not made much of a compromise on their site plans. And as a result, it has been voted against both times because at the end of the day the hospitals proposal is too BIG for this site surrounded by residential homes and a school.
For those who are claiming people do not want it in their backyard I ask you to take a good look at the Valley plans because I do not think you would want it in yours either!! If your neighbor wanted to rebuild their home to be double its current size and it was going to take years of construction, I think you would be against it as well. If I wanted to double the size of my house on my property, I would be told my lot is too small for the site and to come up with a plan that works in the space or find a new space.
This Valley renewal is not a expansion. Look at the plans… it is a rebuild of a hospital. Can anyone really say that a 94 foot building belongs in the middle of a residential area? It does not fit in the space. People seem to forget that the houses surrounding the hospital were here before the hospital! The hospital was built in a residential area. I truly believe that the people against the expansion are not against the hospital updating but this plan is ridiculous. 10 years of construction and more than doubling it current size! If Valley really cared about Ridgewood and its neighbors they would have come up for alternative plan to address the size of the buildings and set backs from the homes. It is sad that this will never be over until Valley gets their way!
Let’s not let them get their way. They are pigs and the Supreme Court Judge should know that. Be told that.
Meanwhile stop seeing all Valley doctors and use of hospital. Money talks to them. That is what they understand.
I watched “Chinatown” again this weekend….the parallels with Valley’s power play and the shenanigans that took place in Los Angeles 80 years are interesting.
Hopefully, the Village Council can look beyond the emotion of this lawsuit and see it for what it is–a negotiating ploy. Valley played the only card they hold to force the Village into a negotiation. As the Godfather said, this is just business. There is no time for anger at Valley, the focus needs to shift to negotiated settlement.
It will be freeing to both sides to be able to sit down outside the legal framework of the Planning Board. They can now actually discuss what each side wants instead of listening to expert testimony. The citizen’s groups should get a seat at that table along with the Village and Valley.
I suspect that 75% of what Valley wants can be agreed on. I just hope for the financial sake of the Village both in terms of legal fees and the future that a reasonable settlement can be reached.
A community hospital that sues the community it is serving. Town now has to spend money fighting the lawsuit. Sounds like a wonderful place that cares about the people it serves. So Ridgewood residents, what are you going to do about a hospital that is suing your town and causing your tax dollars to be spent defending the lawsuit?
I would love to hear from a supporter on the excellent point brought up by #4. Always look forward to hearing some logic from the minority.
Some ideas:
Moms to be: Don’t have your child at Valley until they drop the lawsuit — go to another hospital in the area.
If injured, demand to be brought to another hospital when at all possible.
“Valley Hospital Is Suing You” signs all over town. Because all of us are going to have to pay for this lawsuit against our town.
Go on “yelp” or other review cites and let everyone one know what Valley is doing to our town.
Legal precedent is not in the Village’s favor on this one. That being said, it really is amazing that Valley has taken the step to sue the entity it claims so proudly to be a part of. Despite the fact that they will most likely prevail I think they may finally realize this is not a “neighborhood issue.” A LOT of people in town really do not want the monstrosity they want to build in the middle of a residential neighborhood and next to a middle school. I did hear that this came without any notification to their doctors and staff and there are a lot of pissed off employees who are now going to face the fall out of lost patients, incessant criticism, questions and ridicule.
I would expect the Ridgewood BOE will be holding a meeting as soon as possible to vote to sever their agreement with Valley and return any and all bribe money they have received up to this point. These are the kinds of things the BOE members have no clue on. They were questioned on their stance about the construction for months and refused to address it. When Valley offered them $500,000 in return for their silence they conveniently refused to consider the consequences of accepting the money. Well gues what? Now they are in deep doo doo. An entity they accepted a large sum of money from, is now suing every single one of them, evey single one of us as well as all the children in this town. How is the BOE going to spin that one?
Sheila Brogen needs to return the $500K or resign, either/or.
Audrey for Village Council.
Audrey would never waste her time for less than one million.
Its all about the power baby.
ANYTHING but more lawn signs.
Let’s cut off their water
What hospital people approve this sciocchezze ? I would like to know who are the directors because maybe they dont know what they are doing and we should write to them. I dont understand why manager makes so much money if the hospital is not for profit. I dont care for lawyers, most will argue wrongs for money. Maybe the directors just follow what that lady and lawyer tells them but maybe people who are well paid just do what directors and lawyers want. This is town, not city. We pay alot of tax and they pay none. I would like to tell directors to think more about the troubles they cause this nice town than just think about being big and making more money . They are suppose to be non profit not greedy. It is not good that they show no respect for the values of our townspeople and town leaders.
Oh yes, there will be LOTS of lawn signs. Thank you Valley. My personal favorite is “There are Peaks, and there are Valleys…. and then there is Audrey”. Or just the simple, “F$%# you Valley!”
This suit is an abomination! Now Valley will directly hurt the very people it claims to “serve”. If the region was in such dire need of a huge medical center, then why did Valley block the re-opening of Pascack Valley?
Now our tax dollars will be sucked up by this while Audrey rakes in her 2 million and the hospital pays no taxes.
No your tax dollars will not be spent. This council will give in.
Yes #17 that was Plan B. Three Council will tell us that they had to vote for the plan to save us money and a long legal battle.
Rev. Al pray foe us.
Legal precedent is very much with valley and if anyone from the concerned citizen group or the village took 5 seconds to look at what they were doing and how they were going about it could have and would have seen this coming. Complete waste of time and resources. This matter will know be placed in front of a superior court judge who WILL side with valley….and neither CRR or the town will have a say so in the matter….that option had passed long ago.
Nonsense, just another desperate attempt by Valley and its lawyers to try to bully the village. All it will accomplish is to further anger more residents
Who cares about legal precedent #20? This is a not-for-profit hospital SUING the very community they claim to serve. They’ll have to change their website to “We sue the communities we claim to serve”. If the Council thinks they’re just going to settle or negotiate here, then they’ll all lose their seats in the next election. Where is the Mayor ? He could come out swinging and publically deliver a multi-million dollar bill for municipal services to Audrey and her out of touch board. He could note that we resent the lawsuit and won’t negotiate or settle.
The best is yet to come.
it’s all about the money. that is all valley cares about.
Brian (#3), please do not put words in the mouths of the residents. 75% of Valley’s last proposal IS NOT acceptable. Not even close. So please don’t make any unilateral negotiations with our mayor.
Ok number 22 maybe you don’t care about precedent
But it’s the LAW and that’s how the rest of the world
Operates. The council has no other options than to negotiate a settlement that WILL be in valleys favor and the judge will see to it after all that valley was subjected to by the town and CRR. Your “resentment ”
Means nothing and your mayor couldn’t swing an eggplant let alone send a bill to valley….and besides any “bill” sent to valley would be rejected on precedent as well. You comments about not negotiating or settling is classic Ridgewood arrogance…just who do you think you are?
so please site some case law of the “legal precedent ” thats on Valley’s side???
I don’t think there is case law that states a judge can make a municipality change it’s master plan. I think someone is confusing this case with an eminent domain case.
yea,I’m confusing it with eminent domain….
#20 what case or cases do you base your post on, I’m referring to the eminent domain precedent being used for a private entity, ( a shopping center) to seize private property, but the difference in the 2 situations is the property was zoned commercial and no amendments were made to the master plan. This is way different than the valley situation where the hospital functions successfully in it’s current state.