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Reader says change is Coming to Ridgewood and Change Costs Money

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Change? As in making a city? No. Let’s be real here…. No one, I mean no one…. will move to Ridgewood without the idea of having children. People move here fore the schools. Dont believe me? Go see a Travell school directory and see the amount of kids from the Oak St. area. that live in apartments.

3000k a month for a luxury apartment for a commuting husband and wife? Why? We have nothing to offer that other closer more stable cities have. 3000k a month with children sounds like a better idea.

We are NOT hoboken, we are NOT montclair, we are NOT morristown. We have few similarities at best as in a train station and some nice shops but thats it.

Your schools class sizes are about to get a shock of their life, your nice class sizes are about to get big. No one seems to remember when Hawes and Sommerville had trailers as classrooms because of over-crowding, I remember because I was taught in them and it takes years for infrastructure to catch up to over building. If you have young children entering the schools you should be the most concerned.

Sewer, water, police, fire and DPW services all have to be increased to support additional population. We ALL pay for that. Don’t want to pay for it? Enjoy more county involvement.

26 thoughts on “Reader says change is Coming to Ridgewood and Change Costs Money

  1. I’m pretty sure Oak St apts are zoned for Ridge?
    These four developments will add about 250 units to town out of 8000 or so current households. So about a 3% increase to the town. There are something like 5700 students at the schools. 3% of that would be about 170 new kids.
    From 2000-2010 the student population went up from about 5000 to over 5700. That is almost a 15% increase.
    So how is a max 3% increase supposed to be a “shock” of their life on the schools, when we’ve already seen such major increases before?

  2. Spoken like a man who doesn’t have kids in middle or the HS. 🙂 Go there, look at the classes, go to Ridge, look at the classes now. Look where kids eat lunch at the HS. Look where the water comes in rooms at the HS during a rain. Go look at the AP classes and how crowded they are. Go to the HS at 7:30 any school day and look at the traffic. Go to Broad and Ridgewood Ave at the same time, tell me more abut how fine it is. Oh, yes, add in full kindergarten, too. Yes, all is well, remain calm.

  3. It’s simple..our town is grossly mismanaged.spending and development are out of control.we are reaping what our leaders and voters have sown.School budget should be cut by 5 percent to force out the waste.
    Management 101.budgets are a starting point to be shaken not stirred.

  4. John, you are correct those apartments are zoned for Ridge AND they receive busing. The idea that the new apartments would not require busing is not realistic at all. Try walking that route with your k, 2 and 4th graders and get back to me if you survive the speeding cars that nearly take out the crossing guards!

    Nearly every apartment has a child. If you look at the apartments near the high school on Maple nearly every one has a high school student so I really think the number of students is underestimated. Beyond that, remember that unlike home ownership where theoretically you are in town for a bit before and after your children are in school, the apartments have little barrier to moving so people usually come in for school and then leave creating the constant strain on schools. Furthermore, if you actually believe seniors will be attracted to those units then we will see their homes turn over, so either way we are talking more students.

    The past cycle still has not worked its way through the schools as the middle and high schools are busting. Budgets are so squeezed our teachers STILL do not have a contract. Each grade school looks to cut as many sections/squeeze as many children as possible into fewer classes. And, lets not forget the attempt by the BOE to bus new children from Willard to neighboring schools to save money.

  5. I was in the CBD this morning. Already congested. Imagine after the apartments are built.

    The storekeepers are all important. The other residents don’t count.

    Everything is about money; nothing about aesthetics except if you go to a museum or other cultural venue.

    Well that is not how I was brought up. Needless to say I am not from Jersey or the Bronx.

  6. Talk to the residents of Fair Lawn and ask them what the new promenade apartments did to their enrollment.

  7. Ridgewood does not have any good cultural venues (art galleries, dance and music venues). It is a city of restaurants and nothing to do – unless you have kids. There is no performing arts center. Hundreds of people without children are moving here for what? Starbucks coffee?

  8. 2.49 good points..but massive delayed household formation and initial home purchases to hit the markets. The kids come soon and your young wife will want all that ridgewood offers..NJT EASE OF NYC COMMUTE ,GREAT SCHOOLS INCLUDED IN TAX PART OF YOUR MORTGAGE NOTE.welcome to our world..HOBOKEN FALLS FLAT WHEN 2 kids ready to launch into PRE K..outside of bergen county schools Those bills have to be paid with real money each week.

  9. 11:30am-
    I live a block from those apartments, so I’m very aware of how many kids and how they operate. Of course they would need bussing, just like my kids will need in a few years if they go to Ridge.
    A single family home in Ridgewood has on average something like 0.7-0.8 kids in the schools when you look at total houses and total students. Apartments have 0.25 on average per unit, but Oak St apts are more similar to town avg yield of 0.75.
    So my point holds, adding 250 apartments likely to increase school enrollment by 3% max if are similar to oak St apartments.
    All I’m arguing is that the 3% change is not a disaster of epic proportions like some are saying. Maybe it’s not a good thing on net, but that’s a different argument.
    Re: units turning over, seniors already leave their houses and downsize and sell to young families. I doubt this would accelerate that. Instead of leaving Ridgewood when they downsize, they might stay in town instead.

  10. ” performing arts center” Here we ago again. The Village can’t manage what they have. Who is going pay for buying staffing and maintenance.? The taxpayer. Stop trying to make Ridgewood a culture center for N.J.

    “Hundreds of people without children are moving here for what?” Maybe for a little peace and quiet.

  11. If the taxes go up for us empty nesters we will leave, thus creating a multiplier effect(amount yet unknown)!- the buyers of our homes will certainly have children.

  12. John, I guess I think 3% is a lot for starters. Second, we have just opened the floodgates. Any building within the new zone can decide they want the same treatment and a half decent lawyer could make that case.

  13. I am 11:30 a.m. What I mean is that Ridgewood will turn into an ugly extremely congested and polluted city.

    That museums and the like in places like NYC are the only places that are aesthetically satisfying. It would be great if we could live in an aesthetically satisfying town. If the master plan was followed there would be only 12 units per acre which would avoid the over congestion over sized look . The community itself would be aesthetically pleasing.

    I shouldn’t have brought in cultural venues.

  14. we have people in upper management that have have no 5 year planing. the new mayor will mop up from the,s time for a few ass kiss managers to go.

  15. What is this back room talk about selling the ridgewood water, They have big problems with the workers getting along with each other. big mess.

  16. 4:20, you are so wrong. I have spoken with a great many seniors and none said they would consider moving to this downtown, however “revitalized.” (Not wishing to be mown down by an SUV, car, or bus–or moving van, for all those transient renters going in and out–would be one of many reasons.) I bought my four-bedroom house from a family with three children. When I sell, it will go to another such. Watch this happen over and over as property taxes skyrocket and the quality of life here declines. Over time, it will add many more children to the schools. I really don’t think this is an opinion. It’s going to happen.

  17. Seniors don’t want to spend a fortune on rent and live by a noisy train.

  18. 7:43pm-
    Agreed that it is a big risk. I don’t think this should have been approved in isolation. Need an overall “vision” for the downtown. Probably more like 25 units per acre than 35, particularly if more lots would be zoned as such. I have problems with the process for sure.
    3% growth is not small, particularly when concentrated so quickly. But I really do think the people talking about an apocalypse in Ridgewood are just not right about this impact.

  19. John you must be a glass half full kind of guy. I read your first few sentences and reach a different conclusion re: the impact.

  20. John V-Maybe not an “apocalypse,” but definitely a slow death. While I’m on the subject, as I feel you are a very knowledgeable contributor (most are), why do you feel we need a garage when one or two properly placed decks, for far less money, would have been a better alternative?

  21. 6:49am-
    Yup, definitely a glass half full kind of guy.

  22. 9:18am,
    Good question. Very back of the envelope, two small ~200-spot garages would cost about $8M each. So that’s $16M to get about the same number of spots that a single $12M garage could generate. At that point, I don’t think the system would have a chance of “paying for itself”. You could do it cheaper if the two garages were completely bare bones and ugly, but I doubt people would want that. Perhaps if local businesses had chipped in such a plan could have been feasible?

  23. John V “Bare bones and ugly?” It is a deck, not a museum. And by the way, you don’t even need that many spaces as most of the time this garage will be no where near full. But thanks for answering the question.

  24. John V is half full of something alright.

  25. Bill H at 10:47am-
    I’m thinking the very plain concrete garages you see with office buildings sometimes. No architectural details at all, no aesthetic effort. That would save money, but would be an eyesore…

  26. John V-One deck, with panels on the side facing the Post Office, would be fine. If you need another one down the road it could be put on Hudson St.

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